00:02 Nick: All right, chiropractors, welcome back to another episode. I'm super excited. Today we've got Dr. George Birnbach here from Five Star Management. He has years of experience running practices and coaching to help practices like yours thrive. Dr. George, thanks for joining us today.
00:20 Dr. George: Absolutely, my pleasure. Thanks for having me. I love the work you do.
00:39 Dr. George: I've been a chiropractor since 1998 — got my license on April Fool's Day, 1998. We opened our first practice with 40 new patients, and six months later we had the largest practice in the area. Back then we were told you were supposed to see 100 people a day. Six months after opening we were seeing about 550 people a week.
02:09 Nick: Incredible — multi-locations, you duplicated the success in different markets. And now you've been coaching for how many years?
02:22 Dr. George: I've been coaching practices for 25 years. I've been with Five Star Management for 18–20 years. The big thing we learned: the ego wanted multiple practices, but the systems and the pocketbook want one practice, multiple doctors. One building, you plus two doctors in a profitable associateship will out-pace any multiple-clinic scenario. Production goes up, stress goes down.
06:25 Nick: When practices say they want more new patients, what's your advice?
06:54 Dr. George: New patients can't cure everything in a practice, but they solve a lot of problems if you have enough of them. The issue is if everyone walks in the front door and then waves to you on the way out the back door — or worse, the side door, breaking mid care-plan — it's maddening.
07:22 Dr. George: The first level of a practice is revenue stability — you have to make more than you spend. People say “there are too many chiropractors in my town.” I was in Charleston, SC with 78 chiropractors within three miles and we still grew an enormous practice. It's not that there are too many people around — it's that you don't have the skills to compete.
08:30 Dr. George: The first skill we teach any associate isn't a 34-page report of findings. It's how to make an offer to help. It sounds like: “What about your health would you like to see improved?” — “I've got these headaches.” — “We help people with headaches get rid of their headaches by fixing their posture so they can get back to the life they want to live. If you'd like some help, I'd love to help.”
10:09 Dr. George: Draw out the Money Line: stranger → marketing event → offer to help → front desk telephone (the most profitable thing in your clinic) → show rate → history, exam, report of findings → conversion → consistency → retained patient → five-star review → referral. Grab red, yellow, and green markers and mark each step. Distraction will kill a transaction faster than anything.
12:30 Dr. George: Most people join a BNI group and use it wrong. Don't go in asking your tip group for referrals. Walk up to Nick and say — “what would you like to get out of this group?” — then ask “would you be okay with us coming in to do one 20-minute talk once a year?” If 10% of a 1,300-person chamber says yes, you've got two talks a week for a year. You'll never run out of new patients.
19:32 Dr. George: Here's the sentence. I taught one skill to a clinic in San Jose, California — they grew $400,000 in their first year. It's not magic. It's one sentence. After all the normal welcome stuff, the doctor walks in and says: “Hey Nick, I understand that every time you get in and out of a car, your low back lights up and you have to hold onto something. Do I have that right? Yeah. What do you say we fix that? That can't be any fun.”
20:50 Dr. George: I don't allow any associate doctor to walk into a history room if they don't have the chief complaint memorized. Every patient is the star of their own show. They're coming in saying “my left ear turns blue.” — “I understand that when you get a headache your left ear turns blue. What do you say we work on that?” That's why our conversions were 98% for six years in a row, whether it was a $3,000 care plan or a $7,000 decompression program.
22:25 Dr. George: The friendship formula was a study done by the NYPD on how to develop a relationship: a lot of time, a lot of attention, or intensity. The fastest non-violent intensity is attention. Two seconds of eye contact — not 22, that freaks people out — then tell them you understand why they're here and you want to help.
23:50 Dr. George: Then a little utility on your belt: WHWW. What's going on? How long has it been going on? What have you tried so far? When they exhaust the list, ask “why do you think that didn't work?” They'll say “I don't know.” That “I don't know” is your pivot — “that's all right, we're going to figure it out, let me show you what we're going to do.” That's where you move from a peer-level conversation to a leadership conversation.
26:47 Dr. George: For bottlenecks, run a friction-and-flow study on the Money Line. The right question is “what here feels hard?” Whatever feels hard is a skill set that's missing. Clarity, accountability, consistency — in that order. Most people put accountability before clarity, and that's where it falls apart.
33:55 Dr. George: The best way to reach us is myfivestar.com — or find me on Instagram. The first question I'll ask anyone I get on the phone with is: “tell me what you're trying to build, where you feel stuck, what you want instead.” Those three things give me all the ammunition I need to create a plan.
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